Even if it is maxed out (ouch) the 4000 happiness/42 blocks = only 95 happiness per block, which doesnt even beat a Drive-In Theater or a Zoo, Golf Course or even a Haunted Towerand all of these (except the Colosseum) can be doubled when motivated. How do I correctly do fp threads as well. Don't make this a priority, but it's still a nice building to have. I finally managed to build it just before I entered Tomorrow, and after a while, I can safely say that I made a mistake - by not building The Arc earlier. Oh myI thought the Space Needle had low ownership rates, but the Lotus Temple is even worse. Once the Great Building's requirements have been met and the foundation laid, it will be at level 0 and must be "leveled" to level 1 before granting benefits to the player. Oh yeah, Space Age Asteroid Belt and Space Age Venus' GB's won't be featured, as they are too early to judge as of now. Babel well yes and no. PvP players are going to want to get a full set of this GB, the Statue, and the Cathedral of Aachen. The other penalty of the Tower of Babel is that it makes you poor and unhappy. For the altruistic team players, it also allows getting level 0 GBs of other players into production faster, which will be more of a challenge over time. Deal Castle is huge (77=49 squares), providing a defence boost, and medals. This means that the value of the output doubles with each age, as the equivalent coin/supply costs would double to produce those goods in a regular building. Should also be the last one levelled to 50+, and should probably stay at least 10 levels behind the others because it's much more expensive to level. An amount of goods from the player's current age every 24 hours, from Modern Era on will produce double the amount of goods from three ages back ("unrefined goods" from Modern Era till Virtual Future). Cape-60.This one is hard to justify overall b/c the time it takes to make back your investment is so long, but 60 is about the break point to justify it. The average quantity of GBs per person currently is around 4. Below I will also give some ideas of how to obtain other formulas when I cannot establish them myself. Now this. I hope someone could look at my city and help me understand the game better. The Tower gives 6 goods at level one and upgrades itself as you move through the ages! day. Provides an increase of contribution rewards when donating to other players Great Buildings. 50ish post-arc but only for the sake of getting stuff to sell to the antique dealer - FP relics do not scale well with level. Coins I believe optimum has some variables depending on the world you preside and goals. they literally sit there and keep leveling each others buildings to get the contribution rewards. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. You can acquire the 9 blueprints in the following ways: Note: The Great Building blueprint that is received from a building that was recently polished, motivated or plundered will be from the same age as that building. Provides one good of the same age as the building (of a neighbor / friend / guildmate) that you aid, for the first number of buildings aided. The Cathedral is effectively providing the same income as about 12 Apartment houses, while using the same space as 4.5 (or 6 really, plus the military bonus as a freebie). In this Forge of Empires Alcatraz guide, we outline the most optimal strategy. If you dare to build a Great Building just for some pocket change and happiness, all the while wasting 4000 Forge Points and 30 spaces, then I can assume that you have about as much IQ as a cow. Plunder Goods IMHO avoid all FPs that give a fixed amount of asset and go for the ones that increase goods and coins by percentages. must have it (for those who fight) Colosseum .. not good. Once the Great Building's requirements have been met and the foundation laid, it will be at level 0 and must be "leveled" to level 1 before granting benefits to the player. Thre are GBs that are worthless and other vital. If you have the goods for an Alcatraz, then you can make a deal with a player who wants those goods and agree to trade him the goods for (i.e.) Space (medals) have the next palpable value. It also provides aplunder repel bonus? Castel del Monte: Level 10 until post-arc then 55+. In theory it is accessible very early, and can have a long period of usefulness. When fully maxed, it provides 7240 supplies daily. The most important levels on this are the ones where you get an extra charge. The Arc literally doesn't depricate overtime, but it actually grows in value as you get more and more Forge Points to use, and you'll eventually gets exponentially more Forge Points as you level it up using 1.x threads. It looks like that this is to repel the plunderers once in a while. Cathedral of Aachen: Very good Like, Arc is 80, we all know that. GBs that give goods are v helpful. The Arc's bonus drops off sharply after level 80, so this is a good place to stop and is the standard for calculating any GB's profit zone for donors. The Temple of Relics provides only one bonus - the chance to find a relic after a successful encounter in Guild Expeditions. Forge points are the most valuable resource in the game. Theres a lot to be said for GBs where the output benefit improves as you progress through the ages. Contents 1 What makes Great Buildings special? This is about the same happiness as the Colosseum, for a lot smaller footprint. Helping Hands So almost all the info eventually became outdated. Colosseum and Cathedral of Aachen). That happens at levels 5, 16, 28, 41, 58, and 91. Not sure if I even like CF but some swear by it. This is also where you can build the Great Buildings. I compared it to my Tribal square which is slightly smaller (43) and gives 5 goods (when motivated!) Doesnt worth to have it. Hey all, if you know the optimum levels for the following (my) GBs, could you let me know. (For peaceful types, it may also ward off some attacks and plunders, since the attacker knows that you may be able to retaliate quite effectively). You will level military buildings higher eventually. Bottom line: a bit overpriced. Your email address will not be published. Emberguard Well-Known Member Mar 20, 2022 #2 Depends, are you intending to stick to current age and below? HABITAT ok/bad The population it gives could be really useful, but I dont think its worth it. It is still hard to figure out the real value of the Statue, but at a guess, Id think it should give a 5% improvement in your weekly medal rewards, and some goods saved. Won't go outdated either like all the goods production Great Buildings, so yeah, mid-table. He was probably in a guild with enough high level players to get the blueprints through aiding. Early on youre going to need gold and supplies, but dont build a GB to get them EXCEPT the Lighthouse that you can build. In both cases the boost only applies to a fixed number of collections. St Marks is large (66), provides a better daily Goods output than the Lighthouse, and boosts coin production. Zeus is amazing for GE or PVP. Nice Great Building to have, but it's really down to you. The new Tower of Babel output makes it even weaker/worse; Colosseum is significantly better; and the Deal Castle, Cathedral of Aachen, and St Basils are all much weaker at level 10 now but still worth building. This was the one description I agreed with above. Supplies On reviewing their benefits, it is clear that some ARE better than others. Worse yet, the extra people require happiness, so you may lose out on the happiness productivity bonus unless you build a few Public Baths or something. I do see some people with the Arc and I want to use the same strategy to get that, but as you said I want to go for the dyna tower first. Email me direct at dskies at gmail. Double Plunder Cyril: You asked for a linka link to what exactly. Other than Arc 80 ..I've been using 60, Arc 80 Cape ~70 Zeus/CoA/TA 59 CdM 65 HC/SC 58 BG 54, You will level military buildings higher eventually, Some YouTube rs cover this. NOTRE DAME Useless doesnt give you enough of either supplies or happiness and no high level players would build one now. Blueprint Boost Dont kill yourself to try get this one early (before the colonial era), but its ok if you can afford it. The author fails to understand the basic structure of the game. However, I often see level Traz to 70 or Zeus/CDM to 61 . An amount of Forge Points every 24 hours. For some GB it is clear what the most efficient levels are like Arc 80 or HC/BG where you stop when the charge number increases. The Oracle of Delphi is a reletively good building for happiness and supplies when you build it in the Bronze Age, but it will quickly diminish in importance as you progress through the ages. However, the high level players are unlikely to level their HS higher than lvl 10 as there are other FP GBs that give you more bang for your buck. This Great Building is truly great, as it supports your guild AND yourself. This boost doesn't apply on rewards consisting of Forge Points, blueprints, or military units. Still many other variables, that's my experience and what I've learned, it works for my game.. The only exception are Military buildings. Bronze age goods that you can produce cheaply AND a (i.e.) I don't think it's a good idea to waste 9 spaces just to have a chance of repel the plunderers, but if you have the time, this should be a good pickup. It provides you with two things: Coins, which as I've established hundreds of times already, is a crap bonus. The only real use for the Babel is for a diamond production town, where you can reap a crap ton of diamonds from a server, and use it on another server. The most controversial Great Building in Forge of Empires, ranked right at the very middle of this list. Let's say you get first place in an Arc levelling up to Level 10. +100% when maxed. If you are a pure fighter, you MUST build it by the Colonial Age and upgrade it to Level 10. Depending on the building, you will get the following: Advanced Tactics My thoughts and suggestions as well. At Level 1, you can stuff 4 Chalets from the same age and it will provide 38 more population than the Tower of Babel. Even at Level 10, 4 Gambrel Roof Houses from the Colonial Age can match the Babel's povided population, and it only costs 35,000 coins and 120,000 supplies, instead of 2500 Forge Points. Rain Forest Project (3.25%, AA: 16.3%), Saint Basil's Cathedral (Late Middle Ages). You don't need medals other than expansions, and if you waste 42 squares to get medals, it proves that you have a brain made out of cheese. 2.1 Average Results for Specific Levels 3 Special Goods 4 Contribution Rewards 5 Other Great Buildings Levels Random Rewards Every current age good Average Results for Specific Levels This table lists the average total Diplomatic Gifts after all tries from a harvest of the carrier are used up. I literally deleted my Oracle after I got back into playing the game, as it is now just wasting 9 spaces for baby-sized happiness and raw supplies. Medals Goods With all those supplies, youll be able to upgrade your houses fairly easily. To help construct a Great Building, simply visit a city of one of your friends, neighbors or guild-mates in which a Great Building construction is present, and click on the Great Building. I have to agree with Dskies about the Colosseum, I find it worthless for the space it wastes. Mysterious Shards Special Goods If anyone knows a formula I don't, I will add it here and credit your input. TOR-10. The Goods output is primarily of interest to more peaceful players, and people wishing to buy provinces, rather than those trying to use military for everything. World: International - Cirgard Server (~32,000 players, ~6,800 active) (Active Adjusted (AA) are All GBs ownership divided by 6800 (the amount of active players because you can't really compare the ownership of the Babel with the Arc when the two is 10+ ages apart), Guild: Knights of Serenity (Currently hovering in the top 1% on the server), GB's Built:Statue of Zeus (Level 10),Lighthouse of Alexandria (Level 10),Cathedral of Aachen (Level 11), Your guide ended with Arctic Orangery. Youre going to fight. In turn, your contributors also get the rewards as they help level up your GBs. The Deal Castle medals work out to more than what you can get from all the PvP competitions each week, or about 2820 medals per month, or about one expansion every month or two, depending on how many victory expansions you have already taken. Just flat coins. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Let's see what is the Space Needle's secondary bo- COINS? CASTEL DEL MONTE. Most happiness-related Great Buildings are pretty bad, and they are mostly treated as icing on cake like the case with Alcatraz. I'm too time-crunched to do it myself, but yeah, I'd love to see a list that includes optimal levels for each GB. Even if you only fight like 20% of the time, you still want to build it, as the bonus is just really darn useful. CAPITOL Very Bad Population gain not high enough, resource gain useless at this point in game. Frauenkirche of Dresden (8.71%, AA: 43.6%), 28. Attack and defense bonus for units in both attacking and defending armies. This GB is so great and so common, it's owned by almost half of my server, including myself. 4. Not worth it. HAGIA SOFIA Very Good Its too big. The above ends with Hagia Sofia. Zeus, CoA and CDM are musts for the PvP player; without those youre just pretending. Since some other later GBs give the same benefit, this is very useful for comparison purposes. Both PvP and peaceful players will like the defense benefit, while the medal benefit is more helpful to peaceful/trader players. The happiness it gives you early on is good, but later in the game wains down and becomes insignificant but the forge points (FPs) you get are very usefulespecially at the early stage in the game when you can build it and when the building is levelled up higher. First Strike CDM-60, maybe 65. Cant understand why people max out GBs giving FPs, as they invest thousands of FPs in these GBs to get 5-8 FPs back. This method is the 2nd least time-consuming. So the Lighthouse is better for its size but the coin boost of St Marks is so huge that it makes up for the larger size. To level your Great Building, you need to contribute a specific amount of Forge Points to the building. I did a survey of the most popular GBs held by senior players, which suggested that the Notre Dame, Voyager V1, Colosseum and Capital were the least popular buildings. St Marks Basilica: Excellent (peaceful/traders). Hopefully all the gb's aren't up and at those levels. RandomForger123 2 yr. ago. Im not sure how Davidb3 figures that the Happiness produced is worthwhile, but his numbers are way off. do not build Colusseum, Cathedral of Aachon to ten for all players as soon as practical. As you see in my Castel del onte analysis, I actually would say that the Alcatraz is slightly worse than the Castel del Monte, though not by much. So like the Colosseum, the space needed to build this GB is well worthwhile. ATOMIUM Bad/good Too big for the happiness it gives you, but might be compulsory for some active GvsG guilds due its guild bonus. First off, how do you get the blueprints for the dyna tower while in the CA? THE ARC VITAL This building is only ok at lower levels, but for any player wanting to be a high level active player it is invaluable. Post-Arc80 Level 60-70. Many players do not want to fight, yet they miss a good part of the game and leaves them vulnerable. I think the ownership rate of the Space Needle speak for itself. It becomes worthless. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Building a town (Part 1): Basics | Forge of Empires Guides - [] down the road will be Great Buildings, of which you can read about some of them here, but lets Stix to Bricks: Personal Threads | Forge of Empires Guides - [] are a lot of different ways to handle having a guild work together to help get new Great Buildings After I do that I then sell those goods to people dying to get alcatraz. Forge of Empires Wiki is a FANDOM Games Community. I'm happy to tell you though, that you can also have GBs in Zeus level 75-77 costs 1192 forge points. I would say this is another one of those Great Buildings that is great for dumping Forge Points. I recommend shooting for an x5 level as that's a good spot for both its FP benefit and attack bonus benefit (i.e. Is there a list anywhere that shows optimal level to take GBs to? See the next section. Relics appear as standardised icons in various places around the GE map. In effect, they are like large Premium buildings (often much better! 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