Why wouldnt we invite you! why didnt you tell me?? I dont get it a lot, but I did only start hearing that from people after I moved to San Francisco, so maybe it is a regional thing. If wed been together for years and regularly stayed at each others places and had keys I would assume that I could show up whenever. But he won't care and that won't matter to him. I didnt know I was invited! Yeah, thats what bugs me: I understand Things Happen, but to just turn up hours late without an explanation and then expect that the host will want to stick around and talk? Me: (Feeling the freedom to say I cant, or to say Im tired, or to say that sounds good but maybe a different day) Thanks for thinking of me! A friend of mine lives there and I dont get to see her that often. I mean, if someone said I was driving by but didnt want to drop by in case it was rude (or even if you said I saw you driving by, why didnt you say hello? and they said that was the reason) then you could reassure them that youd be happy for them to come by any time. But in Small Town, on the rare occasions when it wasnt a good time for hanging out, no matter how low-grade, it was very hard to say that in a socially acceptable way. I dont mind drop-ins, if its just a rare opportunity thing like they were down the street running an errand. Guess divide, and all of the yes! They also only had this happen to them twice before they stopped showing up early. Here are some additional thoughts: Dont worry why things seem different stopping by work and home. Then shell stay for an hour and a half!! It definitely hurts Mr Birds feelings to find out later that his dad, who we have a good relationship with but are only able to see a few times a year, was in Big Town all day with plenty of free time and didnt stop by (or call to see if wed be free that day). FWIW I think your manners were fine, and your reading on the situation of friend vs SO is pretty socially ept. It can be terrifying to have an unexpected knock on the door. Because Ive had way too many experiences with neighbours and friendlies (people who arent your friends, but who you are friendly with) just walking all over boundaries and inserting themselves into your day for HOURS. . A few people have said that they miss when you could just drop by someones house, but it seems like there was a general understanding about the time limit of those visits. Ill pick you up at such-and-such time. Yeah. Yup. She made friends with two girls living in her apartment block, and the other two were totally fine with seeing that the other was online playing a game and inviting themselves over. See Id totally get that we should do this! doesnt actually mean it until you make specific plans, but as soon as someone actually mentions a day Id assume its something that is almost certainly going to happen and we just need to confirm the time. Ive always been under the impression that you dont disturb someone at work. One of my flats about ten years ago, when we had our housewarming party a guy turned up about three hours before the usual start time about 6 I think, and even at 9 you wouldnt expect many people to have arrived yet. . I dont like surprises so thats the bad part. I dont even know how to make polite noises. sent a text saying they were in the neighbourhood and was it ok to drop by, that (as the Captain says) is totally not the same as inviting themselves over which is what the friend has accused them of. Even if the person talking about the fun thing is a close friend, I clarify whether Im wanted there, and I try to do so in a way that doesnt sound like Im angling for an invitation. "Through patience a ruler can be persuaded, and a gentle tongue can break a bone." (Proverbs 25: 15) When I tried explaining my thought-action process, he got meaner and said theres always a but with you, isnt there?. A lot of it probably is the presumption of intimacy of showed up at my house compared to showed up at my work. My bathroom at home is also the guest bathroom and I kind of want to tidy up slightly embarrassing but totally normal hygiene products before someone uses it? Drop all the way down to sending her a generic Xmas card once a year and wishing her a happy birthday on facebook. he had a lot of realities to manage. Is it the same rule? For me, the polite behavior for the person waiting for the ride is that they come out to the car with no prompting. Im not even inviting everyone on the ministry team (I lead sung worship) there are a select few Ive invited, and there are several friends who have been invited but cant make it, and its only natural that we do discuss the wedding (its a church wedding, so obviously we discuss it in church! We knew we disagreed on a few things, knew we were different people, but the love and support was always there until it wasnt. Im in the area. Is asking. There is also a lot of sabotage going on, and this major disruption of my environment as we completely redo the wiring and gut the basement and first floor and install HVAC, so everything that was spread out on three big floors is now crammed into three tiny rooms (why she has decided to do all this major construction and demolition NOWwhen I am trying to make a good impression on a potential employer and show up early and well-rested and eageris a mystery best not examined too closely, but she may be thinking about selling the house or MOVING IN WITH MESCREAAAAAAM) and it is, all in all, not fun. Good for you for making them fix it. Here are some of my favorite ways to invite myself. Sometimes right as I was getting home from work. It was a slight point of contention, because she had to put in unavailability requests (and had her rosters) two months ahead, whereas Im lucky to have my roster a week in advance. That depends a lot on the setup of your home/street. Absolutely agree. Its definitely been the type of thing where they expect four people to join them for their birthday dinner and BAM, Clueless Cousin is there already. What's tricky about all of this is how much it depends on a mix of factors. Other people, other times in my life, not so much. Some of my mothers friends assume that its only polite to call when youre in the area and see if they want to hang out, and some of my generation shame-clean less than other people. B: Nice to see you! Hell no!! Also works for anything else youve been asked to schedule in advance. Youre feeling chills and fantasizing about going home with him. When you show up to events with him, is he the only SO there? Im in the I love random visitors camp, but Ive also got a very strong case of friends accept me as I am fallacy when it comes to those unexpected visitors intersecting with chores. I actually use this with people who are habitually late. Things you should offer to do: Help prep or cook meals; set the table and do the dishes; offer to drive; occupy the kids while their parents take a well-deserved nap; fix a little something around the house if you have the skills; or take the dog for a walk. So much this. Like say some friends go mountain biking every weekend. Walk up to my door Please do not copy, reproduce, or translate any articles without permission. So, if you like a guy and want to invite yourself over to his place, then there are many tips you can try. Their visits were usually a minimum of 2-3 hours, and it wasnt uncommon for them to stay for the entire day on Saturdays and Sundays. one of the best things about the living room couch in my current house is that I can skulk in the corner and pretend I am not at home if I dont feel like answering the door, and I am literally impossible to see from outside the house. Im embarrassed now when I think of how I chased after her. Fancy a glass of wine at mine"has worked on me. Instead of spending time wondering how to invite her back to your place during the date, strategize before the date by choosing a dinner spot that is close to home . The Captains given some good general guidelines, but when it comes to the specific relationship between the LW and this friend, I think in some ways its simpler, because its an individual. First of all guys don't smile to other girls unless they like them. I like your suggestions about neutral spaces too, will definitely use that in future. Mind if I come along? If you are an academic assigning my posts in your courses, Id appreciate an email with a copy of the relevant syllabus/assignment for my records/CV. Amongst my good friends, I am not ever upset when they invite themselves over, we are close, and it never bothers me. I have to say that thats something that I admire about people I know who do make their preference for casual drop-in visiting known without turning into Martha Stewart every time they arent stressed out that there are dishes in the sink or that the bathrooms grimy. Because while there are people (very extremely few people) I can happily hang out with regularly for 9 hours, they are not them. Oh god yes. Down. Golden. If I were to guess when its my time to leave Id spend all my spoons for the week and waste the whole visit guessing, and still get it wrong. So I did a frantic quick clean, left the place unlocked, and left them a note saying that their child would be home about an hour and a half after their arrival, and Id be there about an hour after that. Clutter is one thing trying to (unsuccessfully) clean up after 7-, 14-, and 44-year-old males in my house is something completely different. Speaking for myself, personally, a same day text or phone call that says Im going to be in your area, are you free to hang out later for a bit? from a friend is more than fine but an unannounced and unexpected knock on my door, like, Hi, Im already here here to hang out with you! is pretty strange. The situations you describe wouldnt bother me in the least! I love tacos. If they say any form of Thanks, but or That wont work this time because (reasons) or Aw, I wish I could but I have to. Re: Purple0 (sorry nesting fail) But I also have friends where hey Im heading that way and Ill be there in an hour can I crash on your couch tonight? is completely acceptable (but also comes with a side of being told no, actually I cant crash tonight because kids are sick/family is in town/someone else has the couch). Don't invite him to your house at all. Visitors were expressly invited for a set time and there was a full house spring clean the day before. *Maybe* they came in super quick to pee because they were on a long hike across the neighborhood, but that was it. Im personally a massive introvert and dont really like house guests much at all, but I always thought it was on me to deal with that, not to expect other people not to do things like ask to come over and so I thought the LWs friend was being a bit harsh in reprimanding her rather than just stating her personal boundaries. The way I found to get kids my daughters liked to come over was to have a ten minute scheduling convo with the parent: get as explicit as possible about times that work well for you, and times that never work, and ask specifically about their times, and then hammer it home. Yes. Don't assume people share all your interests, and simply invite them to do something you think is fun. Exactly that last sentence. Im not saying this is rational, but tell that to teenage me, who was so quiet that people did actually forget about her! I hope I didnt give the impression that I think its all up to the rejected party to take the hint. Either she isnt interested in the friendship, in which case you pulling back will make everything easier and less painful for both of you, or she does want to be friends but minus surprise visits, in which case you are giving her space to reach out and make the kind of plans with you that she would actually enjoy. Some people get really ticked off about the idea that I can CHOOSE whether to answer my door/phone/text/email, and that just not wanting to interact at that moment is a good enough reason not to answer. I have a friend who clearly, desperately wants to be in my social circle and has tried to push the issue in a number of ways. Becoming more adept at these important social skills is not impossible, but it takes motivation and hard work. That seems like a perfect little interaction to me, am I missing something? Most times its a yeah or no but well be home in an hour, go on and let yourself in. Sorry my place is so messy. I dont mind. It would be really rude to say fuck yeah its disgusting. If the issue is that youre using that as a soft no and people are ignoring your soft no by saying its fine, thats a problem for a different reason and those people could use the captains advice above about listening for soft nos when they invite themselves over. They could still knock on our door, my roommate could knock on their door, but in that and a lot of other ways I had to follow a different set of rules and it was really hurtful. Indeed. Usually I like things planned out in advance and double or triple checked. What do these people really think of you? This was actually THE reason we didnt end up dating. A similar (probably unintentional but still annoying) tendency Ive seen in some of my friends is to lead with partial questions, e.g. I personally would lean toward expecting people at least 5-10 minutes early or late and talk to them if they go beyond that and its a problem. I would chalk that one up to bad ex and forget about it. No notice necessary.. Even worse, for me, than people who show up at my door without warning and expect to be let in are people who show up my door without warning and expect me to come out. The Captain mentioned the Ask vs. One of the reasons it is permanently on vibrate-only. Copyright 2011 thru 2023 Jennifer Peepas, all rights reserved. But since were all contributing our opinions on drop-in culture, Ill say I love it. I personally would have been thrilled if OP had dropped by to show off their new bike but clearly that doesnt work for their friend. I dont have guests for the same reason I dont have Facebook- I just cant do that and keep any semblance of mental equilibrium. So yeah, no, I dont invite myself along to anything again ever. Yeah, mine, too. Can I ask for some opinions on invite-twice-then-drop-if-no-interest when were talking about kids playdates? 4. In re: not knowing stuff is happening, I think that, a lot of the time, is a function of how plugged in you are to a persons day-to-day happenings, whether in the meatworld or on Facebook or what-have-you. But she didnt like me much, and I didnt care much, so whatever. That is what constitutes the perfect level of family closeness in her mind, so that is how it has to be: Family is always happy to see you any time of day or night (no matter how much of a nightmare you are). So then I instinctively want to police myself away from being That Person, etc.). If it turns into a huge social thing it tends to be bad. Which is why I despise despise despise Google Hangouts, but thats a completely different story. Maybe she feels encroached upon for other reasons, and shes afraid that letting you drop by her house will open the door to frequent drop-bys in the future. Surely thats just cleaning? To me it reads a bit like the way that some people think all eating is shame-eating: like, in an ideal world, we would all just exist on sunshine and oxygen, and would be beings of pure air and never need to wash our clothes or our living spaces, and any need for calories or the removal of dirt is something to be ashamed of. I suppose it amounts to the same thingI didnt get to do the prep I would have preferred tobut since the LW is worried about missing nuances, I thought it would be good to offer another POV/reason for not wanting a drop in, lest LW have a friend who keeps a spic-and-span house all the time and LW assume that means drop-ins for that person are okay. Group gaslighting is just so fun (not). His sister got to the point of being able to call a friend to arrange a play date around age 9. Im still trying to find the adult language to be, like, NO, your roommate-with-whom-I-am-only-casually-acquainted is NOT automatically also invited when you come visit and stay in my apartment in my new city, h-how, why, why would you think that would be the case? butmore kindly. This is partly based on what I observed of other kids. ", but if you let them know you're interested too, they'd be more than happy if you came. @bunwat and @Anna Sthetic You guys are hilarious!! When people show up unexpectedly it depends on if its an annoyance for me. Maybe it was never normal for others. I was already aware that he was inclined toward putting his own needs first in pretty much everything, but this disclosure was a doozy. It cant have been fun for them, can it? You don't need a whole lot of luggage, and it might be a little scary if he sees you lugging in an entire makeup counter. Single. I tend to go for is this a partners-also thing or a just-us thing? it means theyre not being asked to make a statement of whether or not my partner, specifically, is welcome. Ill also disagree that invitations arent a reflection of friendship. Shes also introverted with a limited social energy budget. 1 pm. And Im usually ok w/ that. A lot. 4. (When I am up for visitors) the people welcome in my home fall into two categories: Family, and Company. I MIND! The organizer may also be inconvenienced by someone who invites themselves. said person has said, hey why dont you stick around for a while, in pretty much those exact words). (Im sorry I have a lot of issues around this sort of thing ahahah). I *will* mind if they then invite themselves into my house, which I may or may not have cleaned recently, and the 10 minutes turns into 2 or 3 or more hours of unplanned socializing. You can make plans to meet up with them during their lunch hour, but you dont interrupt them whilst theyre working; I dont know if thats a British (specifically London) thing though. Oh Lord, yes! Have at. Good one AthenaC! After years away from it, I think we were (at best) incompatible in certain ways. It's also a good way to practice self-care, by saving your time and attention for people who reciprocate. For example, they're semi-close to a group they want to spend more time with, but they're usually not formally asked to join them when they hang out. I have a very good friend who does this. I briefly tried to date this guy who would tell me his plans for the day that was half the time an invitation and half the time not. The house I grew up in had a dining room (which was also the lounge) and a sitting room (which was more formal and if there werent guests youd only go in there specifically for quiet time). Sigh. PLEASE CALL ME. Its not Im coming to see you, its Im coming past you, and thought it would be nice to see you. But why do you want them to walk from their car to your door and back again regardless of the weather? understanding what the other person wants you to do or say about it You talked 10 seconds ago, could you zip it with the honking?? Then again, those were people who didnt expect you to drop every little thing to amuse them, and before living in a way that wouldnt allow for friends to stop by without cleaning for hours werent a thing, either. It would be different in the burbs or rural areas, I assume. Instead of telling you in a calm voice that he wasnt ready to hang out yet, or asking you to duck out for another half-hour, or have a respectful conversation about how he felt upset about you coming early, he blew his top and attacked you. My home is my sacred space, man. I used to live in a basement apartment. Ive found its best to assume people are of the former type until they explicitly tell you theyre the latter. Were all moving to different cities now so I guess it wont be a problem any more with that specific group. And if they still didnt come by then, well, at least you tried. Books take some time to finish, so if he invests that time in an interest that you have, that may mean he likes you. Seriously. LW this stuff is very subjective. yeah, unfortunately sometimes when you hurt someones feelings it doesnt help that it was an accident. Perhaps its an issue of having strong boundaries, not sure. Then I had to apologize with no buts. again, we dont all have to be friends. I guess you cant force it. I just had my birthday party, so I had a bunch of friends over last weekend, and my apartment hasnt been so clean since.I threw my birthday party last year, I think. Answer: Fundamental Rule of Life: "Ask and ye [she]shall receive." But be careful what you ask for. If shes low on spoons then the choice between feeding us and changing me vs tidying up, then the housework will have to be deferred. It can also feel shameful if you have been to the person whos visitings house, and their place is/seems spotless, fancy, and smells like freshly baked pie, and then they want to come and visit you and your place isvery much not like that. [4] "You're all talk. You cant be expected to magically divine that someone means no if you asked and they said yes. Of course we told them no. Because she is a flaming poopcake and knows I am likely to say no to 99% of her intrusive bullshit requests. I wasnt invited (I know I wasnt, because I helped housemate put together the cute gingham ribboned cards while watching dancing with the stars). Its why some older houses on real estate listings have reception room in addition to lounge. It seemed like most people of my parents generation that I knew had a living room for visits, and a den for family.). Especially since I kind of see him as a big brother to me. My son and T still play with each other every day. Bye have fun! In my experience, No Soliciting signs are ineffective. Calling ahead was weird, heck, knocking on the door was weird, just come in. Find 33 ways to say INVITING, along with antonyms, related words, and example sentences at Thesaurus.com, the world's most trusted free thesaurus. Its one of those things that vary culturally and individually, though. Eh. Its about the person being visiteds anxieties, upbringing, guilt, etc. Bandaid-off time, I think: Hey, friend, lets go to brunch on Sunday, and this invitation is for only you. Especially if you guys have only been friends 2-3months. For every person of their youth who joyfully offered hospitality to all comers at any time, there were plenty who turned off the lights and made sure they stayed out of view of the windows so as not to be put on the spot by unannounced visitors. 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