He may well have had a deer blind on the Mears property. Thats why all the smoke and mirrors. Point is that he may have never had ceased offending. They dont risk their careers to talk to bloggers. The date of the crime and the time of the abduction are both 2-13. If so, why? Just thought I would steel you for that thought. To the Facilitator (change agent), double-speak is a key tool. This means that they have at least one fired cartridge. What it does do, however, is make LE appear to be slightly less incompetent for calling off that search if Abby and Libby were confirmed to have been deceased before the search even started. And he has an accomplice, a much younger man. And my ban appeal didnt work either. Almost zero. Since then, theyve been poring through thousands of tips. Hes a local executive of a government function or perhaps better yet a nonprofit of some sort. Abigail "Abby" Williams, 13, and Liberty "Libby" German disappeared from the Delphi Historic trails while taking an afternoon stroll on Feb. 13, 2018, as previously reported. So, there is still marks that are left on that unspent ammunition that can be inspected by an expert and you can say this cartridge was once inside that weapon.. It says they are looking for photos, videos, cameras, videocameras, film, etc. There is no doubt in my mind or anyone who is in possession of an IQ higher than double digit range that Ron Logan is not the killer. FSG knew everyone in town. Here is a previous episode on the case. And if Mr. X was being tried today and I was on the jury, I would certainly vote to acquit. Is there a place on your site where you can pay/register? The truth is that some of the things LE said in that conference are true. Lists a factory as place of residence. Police: Umm you had told investigators umm and I know you say you dont remember a girl that you ever talked to but I know you remember Liberty German? So Id just as soon stop looking at him as a suspect. Theyve had video and audio of the guy from the beginning and its been too long without an arrest. I also have to disagree with you about your criticism of the police for calling off the search at 3 AM. Hes bored and has nothing to do, so we recruited him to sleuth for us. But after continuing to receive these pings and after it being 5 years, I went back and decided to post as these images have since plagued me. Kelsi German: Sister of Libby. I think what you meant to say is that the Supreme Court ruled that if the police lie to a suspect during an interrogation, his eventual admission of guilt can be considered by the jury. I cannot remember which girl had taken the photo of the man on the bridge with her cell phone, but I had read somewhere that on that cell phone there was audio of her saying something about a weird man approaching them and that is why she took the photo. Holder has an alibi that he was working out at a gym at the time. The 2017 murders of 13-year-old Abby Williams and 14-year-old Libby German in Delphi, Indiana, shook the country. Its a farce! Also, a copy of the police scanner is available showing that Mr. Xs wife is supposed to be coming to the site to retrieve Mr. Xs truck. Dont pay any attention to that.. Furthermore, almost nothing of consequence is being said, and it reminds you of a night with your friends drinking, and no one says one thing of importance for hours. This source close to the retired detective will be referred to as an LE source close to the investigation. Yes, that is what I referred to; i.e. Im nothing at all like how they describe me. The autopsy of the other would know if she was a virgin and even if the killer violated her with whatever she would have bled a little so that could have been detected also. By Freyja Catton. Court documents released by a true-crime podcast shed more light on the investigation of the unsolved 2017 murders to two teen girls in Delphi, Indiana. See? This GPS device showed that his phone had been at the CPS building from 12-5 on the day of the murders. The murdered girls, who attended Delphi Community Middle School where they played saxophone and volleyball together, had visited the bridge before the day they died. They think he did it, but as far as real, good, hard evidence that will stand up in court, theres not a lot there. We believe him. They simply dont have enough on him to get a conviction is all. They talked to Ron and he allowed them to park on her land. Some claims are listed as unverified. Who says those videos are from him? I think he may have had over 1,000 photos/videos on his drives or possibly more. The. What? Amazing work! Thank you! After 5:30 PM, news of the girls going missing went out over the police scanner. He met few if any of those girls he was talking to. I am a retired Detective Chief previously responsible for the Criminal Investigation Department and all of the 80 plus detectives within as well as a senior investigative officer with experience of leading murder enquiries. This KAK guy simply got messed up in sending sexual videos to underage teenage girls and collecting the same from them. If so, wouldnt the coroner be able to obtain DNA from the fetus? Okay, I think I have the name which I garnered from another website. Thanks. She cited instances of abuse and alcoholism. Thats what we want to talk to him about when our investigators go out there again. Guilty until proven innocent! His favorite color is green: like the woods, like the loot. Of course, we know now that they were killed but as far as LE was concerned, that very night, those girls were alive and may have been in desperate need of assistance. Via LE Source A, we learned that LE has only recently started to believe that BG (Mr. X) is also responsible for the Evansdale Murders. Yes, a lot of our very early information turned out wrong, but now that we have studied the case much more clearly, our view of the case is getting a lot more accurate as we are able to rule in or out various rumors and hypotheses. Person of Interest is a much higher standard than unnamed suspect, and he hasnt even risen to that level yet. We dont know if or when he worked for them before or after. But he also got wrapped up in collecting and apparently trading real deal child porn with little girls. Isnt that REALLY FUCKING STUPID? Delphi, Indiana from at least 1984-2021. Keep sleuthing, youre on point to what I see. Reminiscent of a small hatchet, not a typical knife. Another one of the videos had what Im assuming is a LinkedIn profile of some sort spliced into the slide show for a brief moment. So he obviously kept a copy of that for himself. But who was his roomate in evansdale in the hotel they stayed in? I am hoping this will possibly fit with somone elses knowledge and it will be helpful. Privacy Policy. Forget it. Hes in prison where he belongs. We do not have a copy of that gag order, but we were told that one had been issued by the courts. and that you think he already knew that they would be there.. No, I Dont Lack Credibility or Legitimacy, Alt Left: Hate the Collective But Love the Individual. We dont know why he asked permission to search Ron Logans land at 6:30 PM, but this is also a huge red flag because he asked to search the land a full half hour before the fire department had even announced the formation of a search team. Were they are waiting for God Himself to come bring the keys? Possible Harley buddies (friends who ride Harley-Davidson motorcycles), as Mike is an avid Harley rider. Anyway, where you at with this case now? Better to let your officers go home for a few hours so theyd be ready for work the next morning. I guess he cant make up his mind. What are the odds that both parties made up these specific lies on their own? Before the shooting, police believe a silver . Thats very embarrassing. Mr. Lindsay, Investigators think the bodies of slain Delphi girls, Abby Williams and Libby German, were staged and moved at the crime scene, court documents obtained by The Murder Sheet podcast revealed; the show's founders joined Nancy Grace and her expert guests on Wednesday's "Crime Stories" to discuss the case. Whatever it was that caused her to react in such a way, I just hope she shared with law enforcement. Gas station attendant noticed something off with him, but hasnt made the connection! Mr. X needed the lost his keys excuse to explain how he stayed in that spot for 18 hours. Im really worried about people bothering or harming this guy and his family. They have their own sources. Police questioned Kegan Kline about the incident during an Aug. 19, 2020, interview at the Indiana State . I realize unsolved would be a magnet for that but wow. He has not been charged in the Delphi case. Deer kits have five knives, so we assume this one does too. People are saying this is a coincidence, but apparently LE does not believe it is coincidental. Recently, multiple local sources with knowledge have opened up to share that this was a hit ordered by a very powerful businessman who runs a criminal operation that some say is akin to a mafia-style family outfit. And Mr X was involved in a Christian teen club! He was 18 in 1984, so we figured he graduated that year, but maybe he graduated in 1986 when he was 20. If they were killed right away, its no problem, but if they were not killed until 12 hours later, its one more thing that makes no sense. I found who mr. X is. Im a real nice guy, I treat my commenters well, and Im basically this mild-mannered, unassuming, intellectual, professor type. If he left, LE might tow it or search it. He is happy to do so. Tony Kline is 65, 310 pounds! Although his face isnt clear in the picture, it was enough to give authorities a general description. He said he had lost his keys and was going to call his wife to bring a spare set of keys to him. We believe he staged the crime with these elaborate props either before or after the crime from this exact location. The main suspect is brazen, openly admits to being a pedophile, goes to the victims graves and leaves flowers, and visits the victims families to offer solace for their losses. See the sort of games these guys play? According to News Nation, The Murder Sheet podcast obtained transcripts of an interview between a possible suspect, Kegan Kline, and Indiana investigators. What is this guy, another Zodiac? There is a suspected child killer in the Bay Area who is responsible for 5-10 child murders. If the father was an underage boy, Im not sure anyone cares. One daughter, estranged. Its all about the zero-sum game. She was found in an ivory/white dress. But many questions still remain around the murders of Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14. That can only mean one thing. Theres no evidence that either man has been to the bridge even one time! Any info you can get us on this will be much appreciated! No longer in state. Are you speculating? BG is obviously a middle-aged man around 50. Anything that shows they crossed the creek that evening. Well, hes the right age anyway. Trials. Police: Right and you know you talker (sic) to her and you admitted to talking to her? All I ask is that you say that our suspect is named Mr. X, and we absolutely refuse to identify this man. Here are hosts Andrew Iden and Barbara MacDonald, with more on what to expect over the course of the. We also heard it from someone very close to a detective who was working on the case who had confided in them. 2/13, 2:13, 2-13. Relationship with younger daughter: Excellent, she is very fond of him. Some people are very insistent that Ron Logan is the killer. It is high time this comes to fruition. Give it a rest, dammit! So that means he killed these girls because theyre chicks too! Doesnt sound like a logical progression of thought to me. LE has no clue what is going on. This week we continue our coverage of this very high profile case. Besides being psycho. Girls in the pedohebephilic age range (8-14 years old) were brazenly abducted two at once from trails in busy parks in rural Midwestern towns in the middle of daytime with many people around. Your critiques are not even making sense. No one has to believe me when I say LE has a main suspect, but there are number of suspects that ought to be put to rest. At least two prior marriages. Maybe he did, maybe he didnt. Sectionals kicked off on Tuesday night for Indiana high school boys basketball teams! Can you email me with her name, please? Some connection with Libby via geocaching. This is at a time when he and his alibi place him out of town in a nearby city. MYSTERY continues to surround the so-called Delphi Snapchat murders, nearly five years on from the killings of two teenage girls in Indiana who were found dead near a train track back in 2017. Court docs: Bullet found near Delphi girls tied back to Richard Allen Allen is charged with two counts of murder in the deaths of Abby Williams and Libby German in February 2017. Both investigators were women. Delphi Murders Update April 13, 2021: Stunning Rumors about the Murders and Related Matters Now Officially Proven! Thank you I came here after being directed to you. Kirts knew those backwoods just as good & probably better than Logan didI dunno man, the motive is dead on too (his beast of a girlfriend Garth getting locked up & losing custody of her son because of Libertys dad snitching for jail time easingI first thought this was a serial crimeNow, after looking at a lot more of the detail (& coming in to this in December 21, with most of the pertinent activity already have taken place), Id say chances of it being serial are probably less than 1%. A five-and-a-half-year nationwide search for a suspect in the killings of two Indiana teens ended with the arrest of a local man, authorities said Monday.. How investigators came to arrest 50-year . Cookie Notice Thats probably your answer. To be fair, two other men were also searching Rons land that night and they didnt find anything either, so it looks like those girls were pretty hard to miss. Why did Mr. X not drive his truck away when it was in the way of all of the police cars? I I heard the girls say repeatedly, Its Elementary Watson, and 2 plus 2 equals 4. So, the girls were found on RLs property. Kelsis DNA was the only DNA found on the bodies. Ok he has committed some sort of sex crimes or other or weird crimes like peeping and whatnot. Richard Allen, the suspect arrested in Oct. 2022 in connection with the murders of Liberty "Libby" German, 14, and Abby Williams, 13, in Delphi, Indiana. Mr. X is a very close friend of Mr. M. Mr. M was a 20 year old man who impregnated one of the girls. We have the basic outlines of the crime sketched, and weve even filled in a lot of the blanks. Hey Robert, absolutely love reading your blogs. Could it that the killers were middle aged men, DP and not sure yet, maybe FSG but both dressed exact same so people would be confused? Theyre swarming all over this crime scene, and the killer is standing right here under their noses in the midst of the chaos for hours, and these coptards cant figure this out. We think he likes to fool and troll LE. That could be why they referred to BG as a creepy guy and still following us. Otherwise, and putting myself in their situation, if I saw someone at a distance on the bridge, I would have thought it was just another hiker and would not have been concerned that he was still following me. Not important? Actually there are four suspects in this case and we are not naming any of them. Considering I often cannot view website news articles because of data protection laws? Tip Line: (765) 822-3535. Archived post. There is endless silly speculation in the comments about BG I think BG was a teenagerWhat if BG escaped on a hand glider?What if BG is dead?What if BG escaped to a deserted island where he now renamed himself Lord Jim and is now king of the savages?What if BG is really a woman in drag?What if BG is Mafia hitman?Bla bla bla bla.. Ive looked this man over and I cant think of anyone less likely to commit this crime. Yes, I know. If this roommate is correct, it looks like Mr. X worked in 2011-2012 at as packing plant in the Delphi area, and he was moved to near Evansdale, Iowa for a period during these two years to work on a sister plant near Evansdale. I was never aware that anyone had any good evidence against this harmless-looking fellow. Try harder. This family member may maintain a different surname, by generation, but they are in fact, related! The girl could well have been his high school freshman girlfriend. Why dont you do a show on our theories. I am running into one issue with Mr. X. I was wondering if there might be a different thought on this. Thats technically true but in all my years of playing the part of a PIO and putting out press releases, Ive never intentionally told a lie. These are the facts about the man LE suspects is BG. Just another character who got caught with CP. He even brought his phone in and took it apart to reveal the GPS device in it so they could look at it. But how could they possibly know this? My background is nowhere near close to any qualifications for this. Train tracks and you guessed it, more fields, parallel to the gas station. Photos, videos, cameras, videocameras, and film. Im so sorry. 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