Yes, this IS a very interesting thought/comment. She also played Mrs Johnson, the leading role in Willy Russell's Blood Brothers, for four years at London's Phoenix Theatre. Who knows if true, but that would really great if it works and new released information prompts a legitimate tip. Well, maybe Leigh Kerr triggered something. If someone has knowledge of nonpublic information about the cause of death, they probably did it or know who did. We recommend you to check the complete list of Famous People born on 23 March. Some people think he owed a drug debt, and Libby was killed as a message to him. A person named Kegan Anthony Kline has been arrested in connection with the Monday night plea from Indiana State Police. [quote]Does the suspect have internet access? R4777 Anyone who was a Snapchat friend could have seen Libby's feed that showed her photo of Abby on the bridge or other photos that Libby took at the trails. Specific Reason for Tip (i.e. R199 Interesting take. Some of you have been reading too much smutty crime fiction. I cannot find any source of Robert Ives, former Carroll Co prosecutor, stating anything about non-secular signatures. R425, LE just announced a " blackout" on any person of interest in this case. Here's some pics of the dad, But honestly all these white guys look alike. R245 could be right. Thats why they were killed in such a brutal way. I think it's the newest suspect entry on the Wikipedia page. He used a gun. If it does turn out to be this person the cops fucked up (and they fucked up anyway) not finding his phone in the initial search and giving him time to wipe it. Stayed tune. sounds pretty close to "down the hill, guys" voice. Assuming everything in that video at R500 is accurate it's pretty convincing. site without all this bureaucratic nonsense, Any murder cases where there is audio/video of the act chills me to my core for some reason. One theory that keeps floating around, on discussion threads: Libby's dad is a known druggie. I often think of this poor kid and wonder if he is okay. It hasnt had a train on it since 1929," Carter said during a press conference on April 22, 2019. If true, they'd be calling out to him on the bridge. A coroner decided there were no suspicious circumstances surrounding the A good case can take time to develop. R314-- Yes, that was disgusting but not one bit surprising. Tony Slocom said at the time. Carroll County Sheriffs OfficeCarroll County Sheriff Tobe Leazenvy has been working the Delphi Murders case for four years. This reminds me of driving on the West Side Highway in Manhattan in August 1977. If it was neck injuries then it's likely knife or wire, or both. A. Diabolical. It wasn't too long ago and I wonder if that corresponds with the timing of this revelation, This will not be the guy- he is too fat- the guy in the video is far thinner than his baggy clothes make him look (And clearly has weaponry in his shirt), I agree R145, but apparently there are pics of him from 2017 where he's thinner (haven't seen them yet). He does look remarkably like the Bridge man. I doubt that recording is 40 minutes, the phone would've died before the 40 minute mark. We have created a browser extension. Did anything they said at either of the latest press conferences seem to fit with that theory? If they knew him, theyd be like, why is Coach Smith here? or whatever. What purpose would that serve if not to intentionally apply psychological pressure, via the destruction of his fantasy, which might lead to a slip-up? Maybe I met him at Dairy Queen or the gas station.". I didnt follow it until now. I remember there was a long thread (or more than one) about this when it happened. Q. Brrrr. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Friends of the two said they had seen them together around 9:30 p.m. or 10 p.m. on March 5, 1971, in the area of East Market Street and South Matlack Street. I think theres one piece. Then, there is the sound of a gun cocking and one of the girls screams, "Oh my God!". Wasn't the sister was the last person to see them and drove them there? She got up and pushed at him, and he grabbed her by the throat. The killer is an older dude. Younger guy was based on a pic from Libby's phone, And that explains when the cops said "we've changed directions and you didn't think we would", They should have released a lot more information. On the favorite mystery thread, a poster mentioned the Delphi Murders and I looked them up. I'm not sure I'd walk on it period. R150 I think theyve ruled that out. Any neckbeard will do. He does resemble Bridge Guy. Discover today's celebrity birthdays and explore famous people who share your birthday. All the "recent" info is a bunch of conjecture from a supposed insider who has been all over the FB groups and Reddit. One thing I believe is that he targeted only one of the girls. So were trying to keep the details close to our vests.. We have estimated Delphi Lawrence's net worth, money, salary, income, and assets. She was nominated for a 1974 Joseph Jefferson Award for Best Actress in a Principal Role for her performance in "Separate Tables", at the Ivanhoe Theatre in Chicago, Illinois. Delphi LE gave hints that they believe 2 men were involved (one older and one younger). "The sketch isnt a photograph. Copyright 2020 Scripps Media, Inc. All rights reserved. If Leigh Kerr is legit then I think the PB suspect people mention in the AMA thread is the guy. To this day, he says between 6-8 people work on Libby and Abbys case each day throughout the week. He could have printed it out, traced it on his arm, and inked the crummy tattoo himself or had a buddy do it in 2016. The fat Keegan Kline could have also informed other local pedos that they told KK that they would be there and KK is not the murderer, but he communicated with the murderer on the dark web / nontraceable apps. Why have no other photos from Libbys phone been released to the public? I think bridge guy could be of that build - and I've never bought that he was old. The sheriff is also shaped like the man in the photos and videos. Thanks for proving why we should NOT have the death penalty, r194, the difference is that Lam wasn't even murdered, while these girls clearly were. The second sketch was of a younger looking guy. Abigail Williams and Liberty German went missing while walking on a trail near the Monon High Bridge in Delphi on Feb. 13, 2017. No one - especially not someone who the government believes may be in any way involved - should be questioned without legal representation. I don't SEE any similarities b/t Chadwell and the suspect. He didn't, the factory reset he did on his Samsung Galaxy was 9 days later, as the article says. I just hope LE has enough evidence against him for a conviction. I wont link cuz DL doesnt like the Mail. He has stuffed his clothing, pockets. Where there no cameras around that area at the time? This fat guy wouldn't surprise anyone. In the attack he was arrested for, her family says the 9 year old was bleeding out of her eyes from the strangulation? On the other hand, his own family has said he is a monsterhis brother saying that he attempted to drown him as a young child. The pair of eighth-graders spent the afternoon posting photos of their journey on Facebook. Did she remind him of someone or maybe he had a connection to that girl. Also the video and audio are horrifying. Now it looks like they were and by this fat pedo. That Reddit thread I posted is really heating up. The Websleuther who dug up the scanner traffic wrote: State Police out of Lafayette have an 8-county coverage area - including in and around Monticello. Years ago I went down the Beeks rabbit hole and crawled out concluding the Beeks have nothing to do with this. I stopped following this case. The main suspect/killer is probably well-connected, like a local politician's son. Q. What was the other one? In 1962, she starred in episode 11 of TheSaint ("The Man Who Was Lucky") as Cora. Not only for justice, but because that means that the sick sob who murdered those girls is off the streets. [quote] Recent court documents filed refer to providing defense counsel for Keegan Kline an interview between his client and . Datalounge is glitchy latelyone minute Im one threadthen Im in another. R23 Im not sure the video could include the murdersunless you mean just the audio? I also tend to believe stuff released from family members, although I understand people may feel differently. Recent court documents filed refer to providing defense counsel for Keegan Kline an interview between his client and Barbara MCDonald, who is producer/narrator of the Down the Hill podcast series on Delphi, as well as a recorded interview between him and police. They can see it in another. It's unclear now whether Kline is being investigated as a suspect in the case. This case has really resonated with sleuth-wannabe fraus. As for the FBI, are they even involved? I think that there were 2 guys and that Chadwell MIGHT be the one who says, "Down the hill, guys but he probably isn't Bridge Guy." Agree R183. I still keep thinking that it probably was Chadwell. You can't see any such thing in a pic so low-res and Occam's Razor says it's just oversized/bulky clothing. Electrocute his sick, sadistic, sorry ass. may be making that part up, not sure) & bought for him by his father, ^ aargh sorry, tried to format that as a list but it didnt work & is a mess instead. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Authorities say Nations is not on their radar at this time. Also, it was her brother who was in the search party and who leaked the crime scene in the texts exchange. Here you can see and hear the video of the suspect. Law enforcement, when they hold back information its not to keep the public in the dark it really is to help benefit the case, Holes said in 2019. Way back the theory was - one of the girls (A?) I think he has a lot of crap under that jacket. It will enhance any encyclopedic page you visit with the magic of the WIKI 2 technology. The pouch/fanny pack that the Bridge Guy was wearing may have been a deer kill kit that contained a knife and other things. Those amateur sleuths on Reddit are batshit crazy. Holy crap, now that I see the suspect, I can see how someone could have come up with both sketches. Of course they are updated. I think it's quite plausible that the guy was walking carefully because of a rotting bridge. Where was Brenda Dickson? One potential key piece of evidence in the case was released by police within days of the killings, showing two grainy photos of a hat-wearing suspect walking on the abandoned railroad bridge the girls had visited. Immediately before the abduction, one girl posted a photo of her friend walking on the bridge to Snapchat. He said he never had any intention of meeting girls (OK) he was just lonely. Lawrence went on to star in a series of Andrew Lloyd Webber hits, including Starlight Express and Cats. Someone dropped them off there too, so whoever did was obviously ok with them walking across a rickety, corroding bridge alone. Local news reports in 2018 discuss the frustrating lack of answers in the Delphi murders case. r40, you don't know what they do or don't havea bit silly to call law enforcement "incompetent" without knowing a damn thing. [quote] Payback? Do you recognize the mannerisms as being someone that you might know?. They threaten you, they don't go jump start to killing two people. They have loud piano music drowning out the grandmother right now. R143, I dont have HLN. Kelly's room was less than 10' X 10', whoever entered immediately saw the blue eyes glistening at them from a bloody cut-up corpse. They've said for years everyone there knows who did it, but it's never come out. I think the creepiest part is the police apparently know who did it but because of the video quality they can't charge to culprit so are just waiting for him to make a mistake. I dont feel strongly one way or the other, but I dont think its a certainty that they or someone close to them didnt know him. Abby responds, "Hmmm." Because I'm obsessed with this case, on the forums I read several people have had interactions with this profile and are turning info into the police. The Daily Fail has an article posted today that has a suspect being investigated. The charges stem from a search of his Peru, Indiana home on February 25, 2017 - just 11 days after the bodies of Liberty and Abby were found. Later in Part II, they show video footage of a press conference held with the sheriff positioned behind the officer leading the conference. Anyway this theory fit well with a number of factors: - unconfirmed rumor that A was gored through the abdomen - effectively confirmed rumor that other girl L had injuries consistent with fighting back, raising Q of why if one fought back, the other was targeted for (abdominal) brutalization - killed to end feared pregnancy story at least provides a motive for targeting apparently innocent kids no need to invent crazy stories like someone looking to collect a drug debt made his first approach by brutally murdering the debtors uninvolved child & her even-less involved friend in broad daylight in public - motive of ending an unwanted pregnancy could be viewed as reasonable enough by a boys parents (if they are deplorable shitheads) that they might help make arrangements before or after etc , which ties into: - unconfirmed stories / speculation that the girls mightve meant to meet up with someone at bridge, even though they didnt seem to recognize the pos they encountered. If that is true (and I dont know if it is true) AND he has a tattoo with eyes that are bleeding.that seems like too much of a coincidence. R392 I've clearly said that the tattoo could be any of the 3 women - Libby, Linda Blair in The Exorcist or his mother. It was emphasized that the police department felt like the perpetrator was present at the briefing. Hours later, when they failed to meet their ride home at that same location it would kick off a series of events that would forever change the tiny town of Delphi, Indiana. I thought she was too, OP, but in that image she is in a sitting position against a tree. I remember doing all kinds of dangerous stupid shit as a teenager. These were produced by information gained from witnesses near the area during time frame. The murderer was or is definitely local or at least knew the trail. R473 The Sheriff said that there are 3-4 people that they believe could be the killer(s) and that it changes. Delphi Lawrences Instagram profile link read as . Some armchair detectives have even gone as far as attempting to reconstruct the murders in elaborate YouTube videos. It is not difficult to threaten and intimate children that age into obeying orders. it would have been a thrilling adventure. She also does meth and possibly knew Libby's dad who had meth issues. r319 Jack the Ripper did something similar to Mary Kelly after he killed her in her small bedsit room. Delphi murders: Read the redacted probable cause affidavit in Richard Allen's arrest The affidavit does not indicate how Libby and Abby were killed Feb. 13, DELPHI Three years ago, two young girls went for a walk. And if so, why are they withholding the name? That Robert Lindsay guy was a huge creep. Also, I think it was unlikely an online correspondent because couldnt he be traced? You can bet money on one thing. R414, you dont think that the police are keeping the family informed? If Cheyenne did indeed call 911, the tape should be released. He then contacted her and dated her. After the two attorneys gave their closings, the jury deliberated for three hours before returning with the guilty verdict. Since then, no other potential suspects have been named by investigators. I think this is our guy. I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that they were the same car and someone changed the plates during the day. She made her first film in 1952, and, over the next decade, she established a following in British films. Before the murders, Libby had her aunt do a factory reset of her phone (Libby's phone) because it was acting up. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Kids are also social media minded and the bridge and the view made for good photos. I don't think that the fat guy and his dad are the actual killer(s). Scream. They have no evidence to tie this guy on audio or the video other than snippets of poor quality. Libby added, "But not THOSE photos! Why have you never released the FBIs suspect profile to the public? i really hope they have some DNA evidence in the Delphi case. (1961). This. Although the science of DNA was largely unknown in 1972, when Garnett was tried, there is the possibility that tests could be done now. Your first thought is, the BG was some transient perv who abducted them to rape them. I wonder who called him as a tip and why? Five months into the investigation, Indiana State Police released their first sketch and description of a suspect. Aargh at first I knew lots . now who are all these names & initials?! There were at least 2 deer tree stands near the crime scene. The wikipedia page only mentions the Indiana State Police. We likely have interviewed you or someone close to you. A family member dropped the girls off that afternoon with a plan to pick them up a few hours later. Is anyone here going to ask him a question? The full video was released by police two years later, though still it garnered no concrete leads. At the time, crews thought the girls had simply gotten lost on the trails and were unable to find their way back. Is the person still in the community? Does he have a solid alibi? R349 Not according to Chadwell's brother in the local news clip.I feel like the tattoo could be any of the 3 females mentioned - Libby, Regan in The Exorcist, or his dead mother. Highly unlikely theyre not in the loop. Whoever the SOB he follows the threads closely, and more than likely gets a sick thrill from posting as well . Garnett testified that Delphi had come to his home after learning her parents were angry with her for leaving her brothers and going to a party. If they don't have solid DNA evidence or similar which I'm assuming they don't, given that they can't rule this guy in or out, it could be very hard to prove who killed the girls. Nope. It just seems odd for a serial killer to strike in the remote area hoping a couple of teenage girls stroll by. The disgraced Judge is now representing one of the Delphi meth heads whose gang could have killed the Delphi girls. The sketch of the sole suspect remained posted in the town years on, as authorities have released few Delphi murders updates. Going back years and years? She saw the video and confirms a bit. However, we do not know when the inquiry was made about the Toyota nor if it was even near Delphi. There are about 6 guys who internet sleuths have considered as suspects who look like the police sketch. That sort of thing. According to the officer, Garnett told police that he and Delphi had gone to a coal yard in the southeast section of the borough, where he forced her to have sex with him. Of course he is. Someone on the Reddit thread posted an image. Both sketches show a thin lipped man. State police say the person behind the account used photos of a male model and "portrayed himself as being extremely wealthy and owning numerous sports cars.". For five years, no suspects had been named in the murder case of Libby German and Abby Williams, two best friends who were murdered while hiking in their hometown of Delphi, A poster upstream mentioned one of the girls' parent might have been in drug or gambling debt. Maybe the families meant that the girls going to the bridge that day was not due to being specifically catfished on that day. Not sure why, when the whole thing is grotesque. I doubt that they were shot to death, though, given that these trails are frequented by pedestrians/hikers fairly regularly, and are adjacent to the main town. Shins. No mention of him being a suspect in the case of Abby and Libby. And another year slips by.. His clothes make him appear to be in his 40s. R252 you are a troll. Someone should do a podcast on him and investigate this theory. Listen above to the History Uncovered podcast, episode 24: The Delphi Murders, also available on iTunes and Spotify. The cops clearly fucked up the investigation in someway (obtaining evidence through legally inadmissible means). Surely Im not the only one who made these observations. I believe the current theory is that it's actually Kline's father that is the prime suspect for the murders. R18 I have heard that there is 7 minutes and also 40 minutes. It makes a person nauseous to read it. R45 I think they crossed at a shallow point? r466, r446 said "this weirdo" reset his phone the day of the murders. 2. Not uncommon at all. HLN in 2020 released the immensely popular Down the Hill podcast, named after the suspects cryptic words in the audio clip taken from Libbys phone. he's clearly a fucked up guy and needs to be convicted of crimes against the girl they found. ", "I think the voice is just so familiar to all of us," she said. Not knowing the cause of death makes it worse because any terrible thing you can imagine could be true Did anyone watch the HSN special tonight? No details surrounding how the girls were found or their cause of death have ever been released. Theres a tin working on the case as well as FBI. It seems he came prepared with a weapon. Places just like the Delphi hike. but since i have heard about this, there is a lower leg wound that won't go away. Sgt. That might also explain why they would keep some of the recordings from the public. 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