Offensive Super Junior Masterpost. They expect idols to be the wokest people out there because theyre celebrities when in reality theyre just the product of their colorist society. Im getting upset the more I think about it lol but really its just a lot of misconceptions; sometimes culturally and linguistically, that Americans like to hold a grudge against. Why was that her fault? please read this first, honestly i will not respond to anyone who has not read this first. Mobile +91-9466446612, +91-9728497962; Email info@pvginternationals.com; wow tanaan jungle questline; small planet airlines fleet; you've got mail bookstore name Some things aren't even their fault, but ofc they're going to frame it that way (like Wheein saying that she feels like a normal person for making silly faces and people bashing her saying that she's thinking too highly of herself as a celebrity? where henry addressed the gay thing (the trans thing wasnt included) and he doesnt seem to have said anything about it worrying him! Yes, I should have checked the links. I know Ive answered questions on things like racism, colorism, cultural appropriation, etc. They are definitely not out to hurt anybody, that I know for sure. Guess we just have to deal with the immature fans who judge them for small things. I recently saw their variety show where they traveled to Busan and talked a bit about the past and Moonbyul said something that really squeezed my heart (paraphrasing): "We're human. Not saying they should be excused for the things that have hurt other peoples feelings, but I dont think causing controversy or hurt would ever really be their intention for anything. Official MAMAMOO Thread cntrljinsung Jul 1, 2019 hwasa mamamoo moomoo moonbyul solar wheein MAMAMOO bais? not excusing it or defending, but Henry was a little boy from Canada, and that kind of fan service is really odd in general to the West, Id hardly call that problematic. Like who is the next ethnicity youre going to offend? }); #askhwasa pic.twitter.com/rqPYTIMaEL, And from there, the jokes just continued, "Biggie or Tupac?" Moomoos are also quite reserved and a bit more mature so whenever Mamamoo is criticized, you have a small group of people rationally trying to defend them. Coming in at last place is the debut single of NMIXX, O.O.This song now also holds the distinction of having the lowest average in the history of KSOTY. You dont owe them anything in the lines of forgiveness, especially if you were one of the people they personally hurt with their past actions. Maybe ive just checked really bad websites. I like most of the members included in that post, please dont try to make it out like I dont, because it perpetuates the idea that fans cant criticise the things they love. So for antis to use that insecurity and exploit it daily, calling her everything from E.T. to a 'smelly homeless person' to having the figure of a brick, says everything about themselves and nothing about her. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), During their concert on Friday in Seoul, Mamamoo released a. } (but if you need the actual fan account to knock that off, i guess ill find someone who can give that to you. Hwasa is an idol who isn't afraid to be herself. Daily persecution? This, combined with their Immortal Song wins, truly demonstrates just how much of an impact Mamamoo has, as their reach goes far beyond just kpop. But what appears to be the root of people's unforgiving nature where Hwasa is concerned is that despite past apologies and promises to do better, the idol has continued to make mistakes in the form of cultural appropriation. My mom would like to know #AskHwasa, is mama africa a good name for you? Threads: 138. While Mamamoo being popular with the public is widely known, many are unaware of just how many actors, idols, and senior producers they have won over with their authentic shows and cheery personalities. A subreddit for the four member kpop group, MAMAMOO! }); I was enjoying binging 4 years worth of missed content from them but I guess it's inevitable that I stumbled on . When you choose to spend that privilege constantly mocking and harassing people online, well, karma's going to come back to you, in some form or another. But that explanation was also not bought by many. And please send me a link when you upload the video, Id be interested in seeing your translation. if(document.querySelector("#google_image_div")){ People are accusing me of purposefully portraying all the members on the list as villains and not including their apologies. Heechul put the scarf on his head as Gain was explaining why she chose to wear hers in a hijab style. Mamamoo are good, genuine people. I feel like this sounds insincere but its not, I promise, I wish I had gone about it very differently. Some of the stuff I included turned out to be something I misunderstood (for example, the gifset of Siwon) and with other things, I didnt include enough information or included misinformation. For those of you who might not know, Mamamoo is a four girl idol group who debuted under RBW (Rainbowbridge World) in June of 2014. They never went into these situations with the intent of hurting or offending anyone. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), Also of note, Mamamoo participated in and won the 2019 Queendom, coming in first place against such idols as (G)I-DLE, AOA, Oh My Girl, Park Bom, and Lovelyz. hitType: 'event', My anxiety and paranoia are bad enough as it is but they shoot up every time I post on here, leaving me feeling sick when I cant check my inbox (or when I have lots of messages) and paranoid that everybody hates me/this blog. }); The Official MAMAMOO 18+ Thread - The Bar (18+) - OneHallyu Hello everyone, in honor of MAMAMOOs super awesome comeback for their sassy title track, Um Ah Oh Yeh, from their Pinky Funky mini album, I have decided to create a 18+ thread for the sexy ladies of MAMAMOO. window.googletag.cmd.push(function() { But in this case it was obviously red, and drawn the way a clown would wear it. They're also one of the very few idol groups where everyone has expressed that they're supportive of the LGBT+ community, which is huge especially in such a conservative country like South Korea. To preface, I love Mamamoo (obviously haha - otherwise I wouldnt be subbed to this community, I guess! I will try to work on this in the future because I dont want to portray idols as villains when theyre not actually responsible for what has happened (e.g. You need to Register or Login to view the content Again I apologise for any of the harm I have caused with this blog, it was definitely unintentional, but thats no excuse. I dont know how familiar you are with vixx, but N is constantly put down by hisfriends about his appearance (specifically his skin color) and one of the things Kangin criticised him for was his self confidence, which honestly, was really, really rude and definitely uncalled for. Anyway, I hope this didnt come across as rude or anything, but I really need to go to sleep now. when Lay said, When asked about his ideal type, said that she, He and Chen chose Kai and Tao as the members they wouldnt want to date if they were girls, when Chen was explaining why, Xiumin interrupted him and saidThey both have a similarity, theyre both tanned (, Posted a photograph of him in a face mask on Weibo and captioned it, Apparently there were some old online comments from Baekhyuns cyworld account where he called girls at his High School sluts but I cant find any screenshots, Chanyeol and Baekhyun apparently admitted to teasing the Chinese members at first for their pronunciation/korean and acted somewhat cold towards them, though I cannot find a source for this, Many people have said Chanyeol said his ideal type would have white/pale skin but I cant find a source on that so Im not sure, Some people have told me that Kris is sexist/misogynistic but I cant find anything about this online, I also vaguely remember seeing a picture of exo which one of the members wrote comments on and there was something about Kais skin being dark but I cant remember who it was (possibly Kai himself?) However, another fan might choose not to forgive him for it, which is totally up to them, and totally understandable. Things not included arent included because they DIDNT happen, stop believing lies told by edgy K-pop stans w/o any receipts. It would be easy to point to other fandoms and how they have been problematic at times but that's not helpful and just continues a cycle of hate. Contents 1 History 1.1 Pre-debut 1.2 2014: Debut with Hello, and Piano Man 1.3 2015: Pink Funky 1.4 2016: Melting, MOOSICAL and Memory 1.5 2017: MOOSICAL Curtain Call and Purple Hwasa, while covering the track, read the lyrics as is, leading to the gaffe. omg?? Yet we wonder why idols have to constantly showcase an "image" in order to not upset fans. [3] Siwon isnt the only member this has happened to, and I also understand that a lot of the time people take things out of context in order to justify hating on a specific member and its really frustrating. ga('ads.send', { For me, I think controversies and hate are just the unfortunate and difficult side that comes with being an idol. In 2017, Mamamoo created an ending concert video for moos (their fans), where they did a parody of Bruno Mars Uptown Funk. 21 Feb 2023, 07:29 PM. The group officially debuted with their single "Mr. Ambiguous" on June 18, 2014. In the show, there are co-cast members Par Na Rae and Han Ye Jin. Threads: 0. The Radish Farm (Mamamoo Thread) This is going to be safe space for everyone who wants to talk about Mamamoo. But seeing these articles faze me. The environment that they grew up in is much different than ours; they're surrounded by customs and norms from their own society and culture. It's harder to get exposed to these issues that we know about under their circumstances, but once Mamamoo comes across them and understand, they'll learn from it. MEAWW brings you the best content from its global team of Mamamoo is perhaps most widely-known for writing their own music, their electric stage presence, and constant ad-libs often thrown in to make each stage as unique as it can possibly be. Siwon seems like a genuinely nice guy, and its really unfortunate that people keep spreading the rumour that hes homophobic, and Im ashamed to be one of the people who contributed to this. I dont properly feel as though I can talk about in depth because I have limited knowledge (which I probably should have specified in the post) but I didnt just pull it out of my ass, I included it because Id seen people get offended by it (though predominantly by Gain). You need to Register or Login to view the content. Another misconception I found was about Hwasa and how shes the devil and sooo racist. MAMAMOOWA Entertainment2015 Rainbow Bridge World (RBW)MAMAMOOMAMAMOO . They make a difference. "Hey remember dressing up in blackface with the rest of Mamamoo," read one tweet. Yes theres a chance it was scripted (something I didnt include originally but will add) but since we arent sure, I included it anyway. document.querySelector("#ads").addEventListener('click',function(){ It is absurd. 4) I included the hijab thing for Heechul because I saw muslim fans point it out and say that it made them uncomfortable. Posts: 337. I'm a fairly new Mamamoo fan and I was hearing a lot about them being super problematic towards black people(so being black) I decided to some research to find out. Hope that all made sense! Hwasa in 2015 said the n word in a show where she was given the lyrics but being a non English speaker she clearly didn't know what she was saying. hitType: 'event', 5) Again, I included the Kangin thing because I have seen a huge amount of fans get upset by it. #AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/h0oPUHVyku, Some, naturally, came to Hwasa's defense, pointing out that her, the rest of Mamamoo, as well as their label Rainbowbridge World (RBW), have all apologized or at the very least provided an explanation for their actions in the past. I promise you it wasnt a group thing. Regardless, a fan who thinks that its not a problem isnt going to hold it against Heechul, the point of the post isnt to make you hate the idols (Heechul is literally one of my ultimate biases) its just supposed to be informative. And that isnt even getting into the worst of it. While MBC later clarified that the outfit was meant to be a glamorized version of the sauna outfits worn by South Koreans, particularly a style that Hwasa herself has worn before, many thought the outfit was far more similar to an African one than a Korean sauna look. It really does hurt reading them, crazy to know about the double standards too :((. I forgot how toxic Kpop fans can be Like you all know, Mamamoo has a pretty small fan base (internationally) compared to some other idol groups. Im glad that people find this blog useful and Im glad some of the posts have helped raise awareness and educate people about the offensive things idols do, but this blog requires a lot of time and energy and knowledge that I just dont have. The company even took it down same day and cut it out so to make sure that it was offending people. Ngl I let out a couples laughs tho. i am so so tired. Call me out for what? Everyone is welcome, fans and non-fans. And yes I did make an exo masterpost, heres a link. },false) The other day it was revealed that two major idols were dating, and before I had even seen the news article, I was in a Mamamoo fan group-chat, and someone sent out the link of the dating news with their comment under being, be on high alert for hwasas tags. We will not waver; we will not tire; we will not falter, and we will not fail. Im also scared of spreading misinformation and making mistakes (both of which are things I have done), and I dont like the idea of people feeling too intimidated to call me out when I mess up. It's incredibly frustrating dealing with these kinds of people. So to me Mamamoo isn't the most problematic groups, they are one of the every few kpop groups that take criticism and acknowledge it and learn from it. There are multiple reasons but a large one being Im just not educated enough. window.googletag.pubads().addEventListener('impressionViewable', function(event) { With reference to the Baekhyun-autism-comment issue, it has been a topic of much debate as many people have said that the korean word for autistic is similar to the korean word for defeated-i want to clarify that i do not speak korean so i cannot judge this myself-and that it was just a mistranslation. Like everyone says here, it will never excuse their actions but if we can see them grow and learn from their mistakes I'll always be there to support them. I was around during Queendom for the durag situation but I don't see that a large issue as one of loves Rihanna wearing them and was selling them and promoting them to all races. ", HELP THE QUESTIONS FOR #AskHwasa I CANT pic.twitter.com/hfqIr5fn9w, THE TWEETS UNDER THIS HASHTAG ARE RUTHLESS AHAJAKXH #AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/gEpnibGF9J, the gates of heaven are not opening for ANY of yall #AskHwasa, Baby Mia Jade Riley: Parents Lani and Tom Riley speak out after dog attack killed their 5-week-old infant, 'We have lots to reveal': Madeleine McCann lookalike Julia Wandelt posts footage of meeting with PI probing claims, Kyle Sambrook: Hiker falls 100ft to death while carrying his dog in one hand through 'appalling' weather, Killer mom Lindsay Clancy was suffering from drug withdrawal and had 'worst side effects,' says friend, Bruce Willis's mom Marlene 'not sure if her son still recognizes her' as 'aggressiveness' creeps in. Yeah, the first thing international fans do is hear that Mamamoo is bad and that they shouldn't like them, and then they jump in on the hate without doing their own research. Have they done offensive and hurtful things in the past? If other fandoms are able to trend Mamamoo/Hwasa hate comments, it will distract from the messes that other fandoms are currently dealing with. One user shared, "HELP THE QUESTIONS FOR #AskHwasa I CANT," along with a screenshot of some of their favorites, another said, "THE TWEETS UNDER THIS HASHTAG ARE RUTHLESS AHAJAKXH," and one joked, "The gates of heaven are not opening for ANY of yall. Im not really sure what else to say, if anyone wants to talk to me about it, thats fine. The point is to provide information about things which could be perceived as offensive so that fans can decide for themselves whether or not they feel comfortable continuing to support the idols. Watch popular content from the following creators: natalie(@chuusvideogame), matching pfp with @asapminho(@ryyujinnn), Malaiya<3 (@soulspotato__), donnie<3(@twicesring), number one heejin stan(@realchaeyoungpark) . 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